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YCM-MTCMobius
YCM-MTCMobius by @Thorvald (El Thorvaldo)

When Sonereal challenged the IOT moderator BirdJaguar to a Children's Card Game, my first instinct was to reach for that batch of cards I'd made based on DYOS. A split-second later, I realized I should try my hand at a batch for IOT!

I'll have to double-check, but I think Mobius: Total Chaos was also the birthplace of Tyo's Admirals meme.

Created with www.yugiohcardmaker.net

[Originally submitted to DeviantArt August 2013.]

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Posted: Thursday, 11 May, 2023 @ 01:51 AM

Hey, if it increases the chaos...I'm all in!

Posted: Thursday, 11 May, 2023 @ 08:36 PM

@SheevraSidhe0274: Though I suppose one must ask: Is it still chaos if the GM is railroading the game?

Posted: Thursday, 11 May, 2023 @ 09:07 PM

@Thorvald: It depends on how the players work around the GM's attempts to railroad...

Posted: Thursday, 11 May, 2023 @ 09:16 PM

@SheevraSidhe0274: Let's say, hypothetically, back when CFC used vBulletin and could host social groups, I created two invite-only conclaves specifically to coordinate our play for "false randomization" so that Tanicius never knew what our true intentions were...

Posted: Friday, 12 May, 2023 @ 12:03 AM

@Thorvald: Huh. Wasn't aware of that one...

Posted: Friday, 12 May, 2023 @ 04:48 PM

@SheevraSidhe0274: As per the loading tips in the Civ4 mod: "Remember that in a TanIOT, your greatest enemy is the GM." :x

It took me a while to figure out why, but Tyo summed it up back in Multipolarity: he wasn't running the games for the players, he was running them for himself, and we were just punching bags for his superiority complex. The rules were usually solid, if he could be arsed to fix the exploits (my fourth host was a redux of MP with cleaned-up mechanics), but his obsession with micromanaging LOLWARs in deliberate ploys to derail player agency made him the most hated GM on the board—this game originally advertised itself as "NPC-free", then he made two anyway before handing them to players to pretend he hadn't broken his own rules. (Compare with Imperia Mobiana, where he bragged about it!) Several peers have said they only even played his games because they were often the only games active at the time that could be expected to last past two or three turns—I officially swore him off for good in 2013, yet given these things inevitably devolved into bona fide psychological abuse, I'm flummoxed he still attracted players beyond the bona fide psychopaths.

Posted: Friday, 12 May, 2023 @ 09:56 PM

@Thorvald: Yeah, that does raise some serious questions. Like I can see running a game for oneself in the initial phases to test out the functionality of the rules, gameplay mechanics, and as a test before the game goes live or print but strictly for oneself????? WHY????? And micro-managing...no, no, no, no! and why derail players other than for __ (insert 'reason' here). And then to pretend he hadn't broken his own rules...????? Didn't anyone report him or was it more along the BA lines and things just got swept under the nearest pixilated rug? Well, we both know that even when the bad things are posted, there's still going to be those attracted to it for any number of reasons.

Posted: Friday, 12 May, 2023 @ 10:40 PM

@SheevraSidhe0274: The short answer is, IOT decorum was subordinate to CFC decorum, and CFC decorum strove to be as "inclusive" as possible, sometimes in ways that directly enabled abuse when the mods refused to censure behaviour they could rationalize as "in-character". ("Home rule" was a longstanding point of contention between the player base and CFC staff, and was never truly recognized.) As aggravating as he was, Tani never crossed the line into anything that was genuinely infractable (at least in public—he was single-handedly responsible for Chat creating an NSFW channel to contain his hornyposting, and he was finally banned for doxing* a user he'd fallen out with), so our only recourse, the same on CFC at large, was passive aggression with the hope of shaming him out.

The problem, of course, is you can't shame the shameless.

*
 Not actually leaking IRL details, but name-dropping on his Twitter in a way that encouraged mobbing, which violated chat rules.

Posted: Saturday, 13 May, 2023 @ 12:33 AM

@Thorvald: You do what you have to do...

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