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ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now? - Started by: chaseawaythedark
RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 24 Oct 2024, 01:51 AM

new Stream from Internet Archive's youtube channel

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 26 Oct 2024, 12:43 AM

This whole situation actually inspired me to make this;

Archival2

Not that this was ever in the archives, but it's a testament to how big of a lie this statement proved to be today. 

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 10:53 PM

Shadane:
This whole situation actually inspired me to make this;

Back before Eclipse re-jigged dA's Favourites widget and the '21 crash locked my browser history away on a backup (for the second time), I'd been working on curating the gallery so every four thumbnails had a thematic link in the Random display. I'd developed a yearslong backlog that I had to regularly re-comb whenever a mistime/memory lapse/software update's unsolicited popup knocked the session out of Recent Windows memory—and every time a revisit would turn up a handful of 404s, to say nothing of stuff I had fav'd that has since vanished or been Stored (which under Eclipse amounts to the same thing). It inspired an equally-languishing essay, "The Unbearable Lightness of e-Art"—digitization has drastically democratized small-name publishing compared to the long and winding road to the museum gallery, but with the dark side that it's easier than ever to erase a legacy, especially on a whim. Would we even have known of van Gogh if he was working today?

There was a proto-motivational cat poster I saw some years back: "When I do good, no-one remembers. When I do bad, no-one forgets." This seems a much more accurate summation of the Internet's memory patterns. Cesspits like KF relapse like Tiberium, but anything of value is always teetering on the edge of the Memory Hole. I read a comment not too long ago that digital preservation is like the Library of Alexandria ritually self-immolating—between bitrot, copyright trolling, and drama driving people offline altogether, it's 'ere today, gone tomorrow, and the only way to be sure is to keep a hard copy. (I once mirrored an entire website for offline reference, and a couple years later it went down for good.)

If You See Something, Save Something.

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 11:39 PM

Thorvald:

There was a proto-motivational cat poster I saw some years back: "When I do good, no-one remembers. When I do bad, no-one forgets." This seems a much more accurate summation of the Internet's memory patterns. Cesspits like KF relapse like Tiberium, but anything of value is always teetering on the edge of the Memory Hole. I read a comment not too long ago that digital preservation is like the Library of Alexandria ritually self-immolating—between bitrot, copyright trolling, and drama driving people offline altogether, it's 'ere today, gone tomorrow, and the only way to be sure is to keep a hard copy. (I once mirrored an entire website for offline reference, and a couple years later it went down for good.)

True, we could certainly do away with certain websites set up to cause trouble or spread hatred going the way of Is Anyone Up, being bought out by anti-bullying organizations and shut down, and instead stick to archiving stuff people would actually enjoy. Had the original pilot of The Rebel's Howl had been properly archived, we would have more than just the unfinished second episode to marvel at, and I can only imagine how many indie series on YouTube ended up being lost in similar ways.

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 12:54 AM
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Shadane:

This whole situation actually inspired me to make this;

Archival2

Not that this was ever in the archives, but it's a testament to how big of a lie this statement proved to be today. 

it also make me hoard whatever interested me online into my Hard drives

and it also inspired me to make my own website

as Webs dot com(webhosting service which I use to make old website of my mega-crossover project) is no more

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 29 Oct 2024, 12:01 AM

Masonicon:

it also make me hoard whatever interested me online into my Hard drives

and it also inspired me to make my own website

as Webs dot com(webhosting service which I use to make old website of my mega-crossover project) is no more

I've been doing that lately too, although I didn't think to put any of the content I found on my own site, due to the file size limit. Maybe one day I will, and I could find workarounds, such as linking off-site to a file vault, or buying more storage space.

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 03 Nov 2024, 01:42 AM
This post has been edited 2 times. Last edit on 03 Nov 2024, 01:44 AM.

I've been thinking of making a custom website, with a python coded server and putting the site together with Hugo, alongside some html-only style coding, I made a code repo for videos I want to collect from YouTube too, You'll see it in my disroot repositories.

(The current site I'm working on is on a leprd server rn, and I'll end up putting the site's pages form my BBblog repository together.)

Also, the Internet Archive is down due to the creators upgrading security stuff.

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 03 Nov 2024, 04:06 AM

N0-11:

I've been thinking of making a custom website, with a python coded server and putting the site together with Hugo, alongside some html-only style coding, I made a code repo for videos I want to collect from YouTube too, You'll see it in my disroot repositories.

(The current site I'm working on is on a leprd server rn, and I'll end up putting the site's pages form my BBblog repository together.)

Also, the Internet Archive is down due to the creators upgrading security stuff.

update: I can logged in to Internet Archive again

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 03 Nov 2024, 09:34 PM

Shadane:

Thorvald:

There was a proto-motivational cat poster I saw some years back: "When I do good, no-one remembers. When I do bad, no-one forgets." This seems a much more accurate summation of the Internet's memory patterns. Cesspits like KF relapse like Tiberium, but anything of value is always teetering on the edge of the Memory Hole. I read a comment not too long ago that digital preservation is like the Library of Alexandria ritually self-immolating—between bitrot, copyright trolling, and drama driving people offline altogether, it's 'ere today, gone tomorrow, and the only way to be sure is to keep a hard copy. (I once mirrored an entire website for offline reference, and a couple years later it went down for good.)

True, we could certainly do away with certain websites set up to cause trouble or spread hatred going the way of Is Anyone Up, being bought out by anti-bullying organizations and shut down, and instead stick to archiving stuff people would actually enjoy. Had the original pilot of The Rebel's Howl had been properly archived, we would have more than just the unfinished second episode to marvel at, and I can only imagine how many indie series on YouTube ended up being lost in similar ways.

how's this tweet?

RE: ELI5: Could someone explain the whole deal with the internet archive right now?
Posted: 03 Nov 2024, 10:39 PM

This is evidently decontextualized from a conversation chain unavailable to guest spectators, so aside from name-dropping two drama mills and one site you continue to grind an axe against, "how's this tweet?", I literally don't know.

Although looking up Rome Viharo, the man is apparently a notorious crybully and wiki vandal, and given he has open vendettas with at least two of the sites named, he is not speaking from an impartial position. In any event, I don't see the relevance to a discussion on the Internet Archive.

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