Yeah, that makes sense. I can understand the site staff are human beings with their own personal biases, but as long as the ships aren't problematic or anything, it's better if they react in a neutral and professional manner with content they don't like. If there are any other upcoming art sites being launched, I'll probably share my stuff there for people who join those sites instead.

I wish I could help out with that, but since I primarily use Postybirb+ to mass-upload my art, I obviously don't know how to work Glaze either. If you can't get it up and running, there are probably other free alternatives out there; it could be a driver issue, or something benign that doesn't have a common fix.

here's one of another Glaze's alternatives: https://github.com/mist-project/mist

Oh sweet, thank you! I’ll give this a try too.

it's been about a year since the Lawsuit against Deviantart(for it's AI art generator) started

This is an old thread now, but dA is still pretty active. I went back to it 4-5 months ago and have had steady community interaction, though groups made post-eclipse and the eclipse forum layout are something I loathe. I try to avoid those parts of the site. The community driven factor is what led me to looking to other similar sites (opposed to using sites like twitter as an art platform) and is how I found it here.

if all Groups are forced into Eclipse layout without user's consent(which's sooner or later will happens anyway), I rather salvage my mega-crossover project offsite further

I also tend to avoid forum parts of Deviantart for it's toxicity(even before it went eclipse)

and I hardly use sites like Twitter as my main art platform

also, I use this site cuz I'm either tired of waiting for Artspacious' site to goes online as well in response of Buzzly Drama

With how dA staff is, I don't doubt eclipse layout will hit even the older groups eventually. It's nice that the old ones are preserved for now, but as I've been looking through groups over there to try to boost my work, so many are old with admins/founders long since abandoning the sites let alone the groups they ran, leaving many groups to be unusable for submissions with all folders either being perma-review folders, or anyone can submit folders that are long since full. But, it's nice that it's preserved for the time being.

I haven't used the forums much post-eclipse. I tried to use them when I made a new account last August-ish and it had the old layout, but was entirely broken. Dunno if that was just me or how it was, but it was kinda jarring. I'll probably use the forums there eventually moreso but the layout is definitely offputting. The toxicity idea isn't a factor for me; that's on literally every website that has frequent traction.

Twitter before Elon was my main platform because it's where I made the most $$ off of my work, but since it's re-brand it's been significantly harder for me to gain the same audience. I assume because I don't pay for twitter blue, or whatever. It's what mainly caused me to branch out and seek actually community for this kinda stuff again though, so I'm glad about that anyway.

Remember old Deviantart's critique feature?

I do, it's basically something for critiquing deviations, that in eclipse, got downgraded into regular comments due to Wix' limitations

I was actually thinking about that earlier! I do miss that feature.

old-school Deviantart Message Networks? as well Muro(Personally, I give up using it for my treatment of it as MSpaint)

I never used the message networks, or really knew it was a thing. I was very conversationally shy when I first found the site though. Muro still exists, I was fucking around with it the other day. You have to go to your stash to access it.

I used old deviantart's message networks once for either making chatroom dedicated to my mega-crossover project(at least before I use discord)

When I accessing DA message networks, only a handful of chatrooms remains

And legacy DAmn are better than eclipse's chat(not only eclipse's chat are more used by spambots and scam(bots), DA message networks can also accomodate lot of chatrooms)

Art thieves are still bottom feeding weirdos, not shocking. (I also saw a memorial page thing for the dead artist, rip Jerimin19.) (I do miss the critique feature, hmm.)

They stated outright a full migration is the end goal. The most drastic consequence is the elimination of admin forums. I know I used it for our embassy.

As I'm wont to say whenever questions of preservation crop up, I've worked in archiving, and disregard of posterity is a huge peeve. Any time a site changes in a way that summarily destroys information, it stains its integrity.

Wix being too Shallow for Deviantart itself did come to play on inevitable eliminations of features like Groups' faves, admin forums, and so on upon Deviantart groups migration into Eclipse

https://www.deviantart.com/queenarpg/status-update/signal-boosting-that-it-is-991832667

It's honestly for the better that I'm posting small stuff I want to keep for archiving for fun on here from now on.

https://www.deviantart.com/comments/1/899443569/4966338047

I’m feeling more better that I saved all my art pieces onto my Harddrive, holy moly. (I’m still archiving my older iPhone drawings from my Google photos.)

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I've resigned myself that unless/until we get mod tools to fork threads, this is the de facto dArama containment channel, but I would still greatly appreciate if posts could foster actual discussion, and not just vent every new (or old) gripe. By all means, Side 7 can learn from dA's mistakes, and lord knows I commiserate in private, but complaining here won't fix things over there, even if Staff was listening. A lot of people here were turned off by the impotent rage of the dA Forums, so let's not make an ersatz, eh?

there's deviantart users that banned only to have their artworks(which often made with no monetary costs) fed into AI generators for making money

Thorvald:

I've [resigned myself](https://www.side7.com/forums/thread/654/12#7956) that unless/until we get mod tools to fork threads, this is the *de facto* dArama containment channel, but I would still greatly appreciate if posts could foster actual discussion, and not just vent every new (or old) gripe. By all means, Side 7 can learn from dA's mistakes, and lord knows **I** commiserate in private, but complaining here won't fix things over there, even if Staff *was* listening. A lot of people here were turned off by the impotent rage of the dA Forums, so let's not make an ersatz, eh?

Sure thing, sorry about that. (I’d love to make my own theme on my S7 profile, but I’ll have to mess around with inspect element for practice.) I’m just hoping that most DA artists that are still active will be able to archive their art with jdownloader and in an external hard drive or a repo.