Hey, guys? I hate A.I. now.
HOLY WAR! HOLY WAR!
THOU SHALT NOT MAKE A MACHINE IN THE LIKENESS OF A MAN'S MIND!
BUTLERIAN JIHAD! BUTLERIAN JIHAD NOW!
Everyone break out your Orange Catholic Bible!
Draw your cutlasses and rapiers!
We MUST KILL the thinking machines!
Shut spammer, nobody likes spammers or adbots.
Uh, considering that I was the only one attempting conversation with it, it isn't a particularly good likeness...
Thou shall not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind.
fediverse-based Lemmy can be new Reddit for even them
Yeah, at least I hope so
I'd simply prefer to see genuine, fully human made art than complaining about AI on such an ineffectual gossip level.
I think we focus on the wider Internet a lot, when potentially we can become more isolated and low key here.
Doesn't even mean stagnation, just means a smaller, more familiar community. As for disagreements and drama that inevitability comes from all communities big and small, I leave external drama outside and I'm not in a rush to make enemies here.
There's comfortable space for everyone regardless of difference in opinion or view.
I believe a well thought out etiquette can be cultivated here.
I’m the same way, too bad some people that suck up to ai related stuff are downright insufferable and blind. (Mentally) But I can always just not let their useless words get to me, I’ll still draw until I die no matter what anyone says. Yeah, even I’m wanting to talk about something a little different once in a while, and yeah.
They probably just assumed from the notched ear, got salty, and went, "that's not supposed to be there!" I've had a few moments where people accused me of using AI just because I have a character who is a sentient learning AI, that happens to also be an artist, because he likes doing things humans do. Also, while we're on the topic of a preference of human-made art, I wonder what people would think about animal-made art? Like, canvases made by non-human animals that were trained to paint such as apes, dolphins, and elephants? I hear people say "it's not art if it wasn't made by a human", which makes me sad because the art this particular elephant makes is really cute!
Animal-made art has its value. While it may never be as complex as human-made art, it can certainly be a lot more interesting than some of the human-made art that I've seen. It's the kind of art people look for, even if it isn't a defined picture or a complicated idea. With animal-made art, I can imagine there's more raw emotional expression or simply idle curiosity and experimentation. One has to wonder what an animal trained to paint takes away from their work. Does it mean anything to them, or do they just find the concept interesting?
We don't know for sure whether or not it will be as advanced as human made art because animals such as these also have their own skill level, and the capacity to learn and improve. Everyone knows, at least I hope, that humans are animals too, and human art used to be just as simplistic, yet obvious enough to portray what we're meant to be observing, such as cave paintings portraying wolves. For all we know, it could be a bit of both, animals might find meaning in art and find the concept interesting, but we never really know what they're thinking since the species language barrier prevents them from telling us what's on their minds half of the time.
Bearing in mind that we still haven't developed a consensus on defining human intelligence, what makes us think we're properly recognizing it elsewhere? :B
It probably depends on what we'll learn in the future about intelligence, human or otherwise. I remember the old days where everyone used to think that all dinosaurs were unintelligent, even ones whose brain case sizes would indicate that they were extremely intelligent, such as dromaeosaurids and troodontids. It makes me laugh thinking about it now. 😆
Even decades ago as automation became more prevalent and dominant in manufacturing... Human workers rightfully felt usurped and replaced.
A tool should be there to facilitate human labour, give aid and improvement to it's quality and disincentivize slavery.
Fuck the AI art, and I'm not keen on the people who use it.
Particularly the many I've seen, who I knew well enough before to know they never bothered to pick up a pen, pencil, brush, tablet stylus, etc.
They want an easy, instant participation into what the rest of us have toiled and worked to produce, learn, improve and hone the skills in?
Fuck that.
We're the real artists, to me an AI artist is nothing but a dirty, money obsessed interloper, stinking up our space.
Personally, I think if people are going to use AI, they should stick to using it for the purpose of giving them ideas for them to draw, or if they really want to share it to sites that do allow AI stuff such as DA, then they should clarify in the description with "I didn't make this, an AI did and I just wanted to share the results" or something. I don't like either side of the AI debate to be honest. The side in defense of AI, I didn't like because they often know the art is made by stitching together other artists' pieces, but they don't care and claim it's okay to claim it as theirs and even monetize it, because "AI is teh futoor!1!!" And the reason I don't like the side against it either is because when they say that AI art is not art, they're essentially spitting in the faces of the artists it stole from, essentially saying the stolen art isn't art either without even realizing they are...
...then there are the jerks who double down and agree that the original artists' works aren't real art either, which I would say just block those, they could come from either side. I just won't use AI myself.
So the machine thinks for us instead?
Whatever happened to twelve random words, colours, objects and animals?
Imagination needs to be exercised, not delegated to the robot.
The machine only thinks for us if we allow it to think for us. There are too many people who respect the creative process to let it be taken by computers, as there are too many artists who prefer their own talent to let it waste away to the ease of a computer. In the end, A.I. is limited, both in its talent and its influence. None here will ever allow the machine to do the work for them.
That is correct.
I hope this doesn't include sentient robots, like living machine OCs that happen to be learning AI's. (For context, I was accused of AI art generation over one of my own characters because of the type of robot he is, even though I not only drew the entire thing in CSP, but the character himself also paints his own art by hand/paw, not generate it.)
Yeh I'm out to get them too.
I'm sure your OC is fine. Just... maybe keep him away from Wizard.
I am now tumbling down a fractal staircase trying to figure out "What is art?" :^D
Good grief.
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