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So DeviantArt is committing suicide... - Started by: Thorvald
RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 04 Aug 2023, 02:42 AM
Masonicon:
Soon, Deviantart will have 23rd birthday, and how's upcoming 23rd birthday of Deviantart?

Well shoot, DeviantArt is only eight months younger than me.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 04 Aug 2023, 04:37 AM

I'm all for a war against Deviantart.

But the prospect of it's utter annihilation at this time is unwelcome.

In a time where new art sites are popping up is fine.

But consider they'll storm to places like this in volume.

Many of us remember the kinds of people on DA, we have few mods here as it is.

We have to ponder on that possibility, how do we protect what we have here from unwanted elements in the instance of a mass influx of new members. Particularly if somewhere as large as Deviantart has it's userbase wandering off and looking elsewhere.

Which has already been happening for some time.

I do believe paying attention and keen surveillance are one such tool against problematic elements. Particularly in the stead of harsh censorship.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 06 Aug 2023, 10:37 PM

anyway, how's newest video about Deviantart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Bk0xNJoZU

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 10 Aug 2023, 04:35 PM

Are we not worrying about that DA is being moderated by freaking AI

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 10 Aug 2023, 05:16 PM

Some people literally want a AI government, as opposed to a government of the working people. People should be credited and compensated for their work. DA is just farming people's productions for money and don't care how.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 10 Aug 2023, 05:42 PM
Inafox:
Some people literally want a AI government, as opposed to a government of the working people. People should be credited and compensated for their work. DA is just farming people's productions for money and don't care how.

You take away the work from a man, you take something away from the man.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 10 Aug 2023, 06:19 PM
Rudi10001:
Are we not worrying about that DA is being moderated by freaking AI

I mean is it much different from their live moderation? :^)

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 10 Aug 2023, 10:09 PM

AI moderation ironically sounds somewhat better than the complete lack of it yeah lol. More importantly why can't they add AI moderation to remove the sexual nudity that isn't put as mature. Or like at least flag the AI images? What is the AI even moderating here? lol

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 11 Aug 2023, 01:59 AM
This post has been edited 3 times. Last edit on 11 Aug 2023, 02:07 AM.

I bet DA's ai mods just sit there and do nothing most of the time, and DA's forums just killed my reasons to talk to people on DA in general now, I visited the forums weeks ago and no recent activity on any forums. I also question if people want others to hate each other in the forums sometimes. Whatever, Deviantart will clumsily pull the plug like the dolts they are. (Yes I'm still holding resentment toward other not so great DA people that'll fuss at you and block you for a slightly different opinion in general.) I'll stop venting now. I only post on DA for the most part and leave the site and never reply to notes. I'm really wishing people stop sending notes, leave me be man.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 11 Aug 2023, 02:35 AM
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N0-11:
I bet DA's ai mods just sit there and do nothing most of the time, and DA's forums just killed my reasons to talk to people on DA in general now, I visited the forums weeks ago and no recent activity on any forums. I also question if people want others to hate each other in the forums sometimes. Whatever, Deviantart will clumsily pull the plug like the dolts they are. (Yes I'm still holding resentment toward other not so great DA people that'll fuss at you and block you for a slightly different opinion in general.) I'll stop venting now. I only post on DA for the most part and leave the site and never reply to notes. I'm really wishing people stop sending notes, leave me be man.

As a former DA forum reg, I can say with good authority;

They absolutely fucking DESPISE each other.

Consider most of them started out as friends too.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 11 Aug 2023, 03:13 AM
Inafox:
Some people literally want a AI government, as opposed to a government of the working people. People should be credited and compensated for their work. DA is just farming people's productions for money and don't care how.

Unaware that those AIs need Human(if not Superhuman) level Intelligence to works well

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 11 Aug 2023, 06:20 AM

L

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 11 Aug 2023, 04:47 PM
Masonicon:
Inafox:
Some people literally want a AI government, as opposed to a government of the working people. People should be credited and compensated for their work. DA is just farming people's productions for money and don't care how.
Unaware that those AIs need Human(if not Superhuman) level Intelligence to works well

Well you only need artificial stupidity to ruin things because ruining things is stupidity.

@N0-11 Ah yeah the forums were always kind of toxic, though surprisingly not as much as FurAffinity's but I think that's just because the mods there were literal trolls at times.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 11 Aug 2023, 05:13 PM
Inafox:
Masonicon:
Inafox:
Some people literally want a AI government, as opposed to a government of the working people. People should be credited and compensated for their work. DA is just farming people's productions for money and don't care how.
Unaware that those AIs need Human(if not Superhuman) level Intelligence to works well
Well you only need artificial stupidity to ruin things because ruining things is stupidity. @N0-11 Ah yeah the forums were always kind of toxic, though surprisingly not as much as FurAffinity's but I think that's just because the mods there were literal trolls at times.

Well you see, it is evident that the moneyed interest is all in the North.

At the expense of those in the South.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 11 Aug 2023, 07:13 PM
Inafox:
AI moderation ironically sounds somewhat better than the complete lack of it yeah lol. More importantly why can't they add AI moderation to remove the sexual nudity that isn't put as mature. Or like at least flag the AI images? What is the AI even moderating here? lol

Yeah, because I have been seeing Porn of Alphabet Lore that isn't put as mature, and also ugh earthlandartX faving art of minors, like they should, and also let's forget about the tons of users that do not make any comments or art whatsoever

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 10:33 AM
Rudi10001:
Inafox:
AI moderation ironically sounds somewhat better than the complete lack of it yeah lol. More importantly why can't they add AI moderation to remove the sexual nudity that isn't put as mature. Or like at least flag the AI images? What is the AI even moderating here? lol
Yeah, because I have been seeing Porn of Alphabet Lore that isn't put as mature, and also ugh earthlandartX faving art of minors, like they should, and also let's forget about the tons of users that do not make any comments or art whatsoever

They are those who wear devil words like earphones.

I shall slay them in time.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 14 Aug 2023, 11:29 PM
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would you check out my trustpilot reviews of Deviantart: [https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/64978d96135b840cbbf7da19](https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/64978d96135b840cbbf7da19)

don't forget to look at my older Trustpilot reviews of Deviantart

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 18 Aug 2023, 11:55 PM

also, Wix' buyout of Deviantart can reinforces Dead Internet Theory not only that takes place around the time Internet dies according to the theory

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 19 Aug 2023, 07:40 PM
Masonicon:
also, Wix' buyout of Deviantart can reinforces [Dead Internet Theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory) not only that takes place around the time Internet dies according to the theory

Eh, I don't deny Dead Internet as a consequence of an automated feedback loop, but I'd posit it as the byproduct of capitalistic cannibalism as the techbros try to "optimize" the last holdouts of actual human productivity. As I've speculated elsewhere, the Wix buyout was spyed & Co. throwing a hail-Mary pass to save dA from insolvency after years of mismanagement; the subsequent capitulation to AI is them shoring up the bottom line by courting fast cash (see: all the AIspam accounts are paid members running subscription galleries, in what's essentially a giant Ponzi scheme not dissimilar to NFTs). It's more opportunistic scavengers circling the carcass of Web3.0 than some sort of concerted conspiracy: Never attribute to malice what can equally be explained by stupidity.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 20 Aug 2023, 03:27 PM

What I also noticed is that DA dosen’t have 2FA either, and they wonder why people are getting hacked, but nah, they rather worry about destoying themselves. (I’m still proud of myself for downloading my whole DA gallery in a big thumb drive. I’m thinking of doing that to my colorslive galleries next.)

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 20 Aug 2023, 06:02 PM
N0-11:
What I also noticed is that DA dosen’t have 2FA either, and they wonder why people are getting hacked, but nah, they rather worry about destoying themselves.

I remember a couple years back, there was an epidemic of derelict accounts getting hijacked to front ads to what I assume was an NSFW site. Most were lurkers so no big loss, but some actually had content, and when moderation finally caught up and bulldozed everything, those galleries got wiped.

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(I’m still proud of myself for downloading my whole DA gallery in a big thumb drive. I’m thinking of doing that to my colorslive galleries next.)

If experience has taught me anything, always keep local copies. One of my DYOS colleagues didn't maintain hard records and so when whatever filehost he was using at the time had a hiccup, fffft!—there went the only reference.

(Side note but I once mirrored an entire site on a whim so I could reference it offline—turned out fortuitous when the domain went down a few years later.) ||||||:^{3>

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 21 Aug 2023, 12:26 AM
Thorvald:
N0-11:
What I also noticed is that DA dosen’t have 2FA either, and they wonder why people are getting hacked, but nah, they rather worry about destoying themselves.
I remember a couple years back, there was an epidemic of derelict accounts getting hijacked to front ads to what I assume was an NSFW site. Most were lurkers so no big loss, but some actually had *content*, and when moderation finally caught up and bulldozed everything, those galleries got wiped.
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(I’m still proud of myself for downloading my whole DA gallery in a big thumb drive. I’m thinking of doing that to my colorslive galleries next.)
If experience has taught me anything, **always** keep local copies. One of my DYOS colleagues didn't maintain hard records and so when whatever filehost he was using at the time had a hiccup, fffft!—there went the only reference. (Side note but I once mirrored an entire site on a whim so I could reference it offline—turned out fortuitous when the domain went down a few years later.) ||||||:^{3>

speaking of derelict accounts hijacked by favebot, that can scared me from posting Deviations until that stopped

urges to downloading anything that interested me online to my hard drives can intensifies

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 21 Aug 2023, 01:21 AM

Well I found out that a lot of DA accs with AI and NFTs do this program where they fave each other and in turn the accs themselves are also bots. The site just becomes unfathomably worse.

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 21 Aug 2023, 02:27 AM
Inafox:
Well I found out that a lot of DA accs with AI and NFTs do this program where they fave each other and in turn the accs themselves are also bots. The site just becomes unfathomably worse.

yeah, and Wix can think giving Deviantart anti-spam measures can limit the site's traffic

RE: So DeviantArt is committing suicide...
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:08 PM
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Re spam: Yeah, spam's been a pretty big problem on DA, probably even bigger than the AI art fiasco. Especially after using the 'suppress AI art' option, the main page is just full of random supplements, Indian properties and courses!

Just posted something over there (I know, I'm a hypocrite), there's a complete change of the submit mechanism - I couldn't type a description at first!

Probably the second to last thing from the old DA to be 'eclipse-ized' - the Forum is still standing IIRC?

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